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, but perhaps in the race for oscar recognition. which seems to suggest strongly by itself narrative strategy at least by the fact that it begins with 30 minutes or so of waterboarding and other forms of torture. the torture was absolutely necessary in tracking down bin laden. >> right. mark, the film starts with those brutal interrogation and torture themes and presents a linear narrative where whatever you think of them, people look at them and think they're bad, but end with things that americans thinking are very good, which is killing bin laden. i want to highlight this to your point. senators feinstein and mccain wrote that they believe the filmmakers have an obligation to state that the role of torture in the hunt for osama bin laden was not based on the facts. why do you think we mentioned the senior senators and john mccain who knows a thing or two about this are bent out of shape about the movie? >> well, i think they are politicians, just about all of them, and they know that you can state and state and restate facts. in fact, facts have little purchase when it comes to the powerfu
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